Why MN is broke

Posted by: Barthélemy Barbancourt

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In the absence of talks between Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and GOP legislative leaders, the shutdown was rippling into the lives of people like Sonya Mills, a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child care subsidies.

..after the shutdown also has to care for her six youngest children, ages 3 through 14, because she lost state funding for their daycare and other programs.

$43,200 a year for daycare??? How much is she getting from the other programs and how much overhead do those programs have? Ms. Mills probably costs the state of MN over $100,000 a year.

At MN's highest tax rate a worker has to make over $550,000 just to support Ms. Mill's daycare bill. That means 11 people making an average salary of 56$K a year (They pay at a lower rate) have every tax dollar that they pay in spent on one single benefit to a single person. How many MN taxpayers are supporting this family? My guess is somewhere between 50 and 100.

This slut is a great example why our state is going broke.

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Sequel
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written by Sequel , July 01, 2011

That's 150 a week per kid, That's close to what I paid.
But of course I paid. Why do I pay for hers too?

Hey, is this article supposed to pull at my heart strings? Am I supposed to feel bad for this welfare queen who breeds like a fuckin bunny and expects someone else to pay for her brats?
Look at the picture, see the abject poverty she lives in?
Cut her off. Maybe she can get her mom to help watch the kids.



Woody
How many families supported Mr. Beale tax obligation?
written by Woody , July 02, 2011

Slut, nice touch Bart. Shes small potatoes when it comes to the State financial situation compared to Robert Beale.

http://www.startribune.com/local/west/18424219.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y#continue



Ed Salden
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written by Ed Salden , July 02, 2011

I must admit this is hard to justify.

The lady works at a temp agency. She earns maybe half of what it costs to have her children cared for while she works.

So it would be cheaper if we just paid her to stay at home.

One is tempted to just say fuck it and take away her support, but the cliche is true, it's the kids who will suffer the most.

Some might advocate forced sterilization, as was done in some parts of the country in the 40's and 50's. That makes me queasy.




Ed Salden
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written by Ed Salden , July 02, 2011

But use of the word "slut" was not appropriate, Mr Barbancourt. Ms Mills may be the biggest whore in Hennepin County, or she may be an eight-time virgin mother,(which would be a new record, by the way). Her level of sexual activity is not important, it's that she's costing us too much money.




Barthélemy Barbancourt
Her level of sexual activity is not important,
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , July 02, 2011

Actually it is as each time she breeds it costs me money so it is my business. This an essential truth that liberals don't get; when the state tells me that Ms. Slut has a greater claim on my income than I do, it suddenly becomes very much my business as to why she gets my money.

All taxes are collected by the threat of force. Given the choice I wouldn't give this whore one fucking dime. Shes a big girl and she'd soon start tracking down "daddies" and maybe think about keeping her legs together.

And where are the multiple sperm donors? Why aren't they contributing to their offspring? Fucked up culture fostered by a fucked up state run by liberals.



Wendy Wulff
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written by Wendy Wulff , July 03, 2011

The name calling is an unnecessary distraction, but there are some real questions raised here.

Why would the state be paying for programs for 14 year olds?  Why can't the older children babysit?  I babysat my sister every summer from the time I was 9 years old, so my parents could work. There should be several children in the family that can babysit for the summer. During the rest of the year, most of them should be in school. It is absolutely ridiculous for the state to pay that much for care.

Having family members take care of each other is what most people do, why is it unreasonable to expect Ms. Mills and her family do the same?



Nobody
Oh Dear
written by Nobody , July 03, 2011

This artical and others like it will most likely backfire on the Strib. If it was to make me feel sorry for this woman it does not. Where's her family? Her Mom?

It's not just the $43K in child care, how many social workers and administrators does it take and what do they cost us?




Woody
Fucked up state run by liberals.
written by Woody , July 03, 2011

Our state is run by a Republican house and a Democratic governor. Why don't you write your representative with some of your outstanding ideas to save your money and to un-fuck our state. It's your patriotic duty to share your wealth of ideas with our governing body. Do the right thing Bart. Put the childish name calling aside and do something positive.


Bill C
They've been trying...
written by Bill C , July 03, 2011

The Republican legislature has been TRYING to un-fuck our state. Unfortunately the medicated trust fund baby we have to call Governor is intent on not only keeping the status quo, he wants to expedite the descent into the toilet.

Bart lives in Minneapolis proper. Trying to communicate his wishes with his "representatives" is about as big a waste of time as there is.



Woody
The Republican legislature has been trying to unfuck our state.....
written by Woody , July 03, 2011

.... by tagging social agenda items such as stem cell research restrictions, abortion restrictions,voter ID and republican redistricting to name a few rather than focusing on the budget issue. The "medicated trust fund baby"? Wendy is right; the name calling is a distraction and I'll add childish as well. So Bart lives in Minneapolis, he can still make a difference by sharing his well thought out ideas with his representative in order to improve our state. Great ideas should have no political boundaries.


Barthélemy Barbancourt
My Rep is retarded.
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , July 04, 2011

Great ideas should have no political boundaries.

Really? I guess you missed the last 40 years of partisan politics. Every idea has a political spin and people dismiss them out right before thinking these days. This lady is an excellent example of a completely broken system but any mention of reform is met with the tired old "it's for the kids BS".

How about we take the kids from the losers and put them in orphanages? We get saving through economies of scale, the kids can be kept safe and the losers lose the incentive to continue to breed to get more benefits.

The American political system is broken and corrupt. The morons we put in office are pushing us into bankruptcy and most are too fucking stupid to even get that.



Barthélemy Barbancourt
Try talking to any of these morons
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , July 04, 2011

Frank Hornstein - 60B - MN House

Driver license acceptable methods of payment provided, and surcharge imposed.
Plug-in electric drive vehicles exempted from sales tax on motor vehicles.
Month of April designated as Genocide Awareness and Prevention month.

Scott Dibble - 60 - MN Senate

Mobile food units duration of operation local government units restriction authority
HIV care coordination grants establishment and appropriation
Manufactured home park cooperatives homestead treatment modification
Constitutional amendment to eliminate the line item veto authority of the governor
Mortgage foreclosure moratorium; tenant rights in mortgage foreclosures and contract for deed cancellations

Can you see that these two retards are the problem and could create a private csector job of you put a gun to thier heads. They love to create bigger and more intrusive government programs and they actually hate private businesses.

Keith Ellison - 05 - U.S. House
Amy Klobuchar - U.S. Senate
Al Franken - U.S. Senate

Like I said, retards.



Woody
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written by Woody , July 04, 2011

Retards? Nice touch Bart. They are our elected Representatives and, like it or not, deserve some respect for their service. II don't agree with everything my Congressman (Paulson) does but I appreciate his service to the community and I would NEVER refer to him as a retard.


Nobody
Woody...
written by Nobody , July 04, 2011

Knock off the "respect" crap. Many of us agree with Bart. Patriotic duty to share the wealth? Why don't you move to Cuba and be done with it? Spanish isn't that hard to pick up and every one is equally poor. But hey, they have single payer healthcare, it's free! Retard.


Woody
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written by Woody , July 04, 2011

I already know Spanish Nobody but I choose to live here in Minnesota. I love it here!! I see you choose to partake in the retard parade as well. I feel sorry for you; I truly do but I have faith in your potential for growth and maturity. Awkward segue into single payer by the way. That's not even a topic here. Bart was talking about this "sluts" daycare bill and "his money" (twice!) Not single payer health care. Please stay oon topic.


Nobody
OK Woody;
written by Nobody , July 05, 2011

How about a big fuck you? This woman is emblematic of the fucked up welfare state we live in. She screws around-we pay. Alot of us don't think we should have to anymore.


Barthélemy Barbancourt
OK boys, calm down
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , July 05, 2011

We have a rule that no one commenting on the Anti-Strib is retarded. We try to limit the FU's to the official Anti-Strib greeting "Fuck You and how are the kids?"

Woody, it is hard to respect someone's service when they use that service to set themselves and others up for life at my expense. Take a look at public employee pensions and then get back to me about how selfless our "servants" really are.

Most make more than they would in the private sector because many of them are not what I consider intelligent people. I am skewed as I work with engineers and technical people all the time and most politicians don't have much in the way of any marketable skills for the real world.

I agree that not all are retarded, but some clearly are mentally challenged. Try talking to RT Rybak sometime and tell me what you think his IQ is, I estimate 85.

To be fair, Tom Emmer is only slightly brighter than Rybak but his temperament leaves a whole lot to be desired. It is rare that I meet a politician that impresses me in anyway, Mitt Romney being one as he is genuinely nice and able to discuss things intelligently. I have also met Michelle Bachman and I think she seems to have at least average intelligence and she is a very nice person.



Ed Salden
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written by Ed Salden , July 05, 2011

Politics is a sales job. The product is you.

Say the popular things and smile, work harder than the other guy in kissing voter and especially contributor heinie, and you might just get elected.

Keep doing it, and you'll probably get elected again.



Barthélemy Barbancourt
Agreed but..
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , July 05, 2011

What happens when said ass-clown wins? Shouldn't we require that they have a clue?

I know that most politicians think that their job is to campaign, but it isn't. They are supposed to represent my interests, which they rarely do.

I wouldn't mind if they had a differing viewpoint but stayed in touch with reality, but it seems lately that some politicians live in a parallel where an increase is a cut and a debt is an investment.



Ed Salden
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written by Ed Salden , July 06, 2011

Thanks, Bart, there's a lot to argue with here.

"What happens when said ass-clown wins? Shouldn't we require that they have a clue?"

I remember when some states had literacy testing for voters. Do you really want an admissions test for candidates? I don't think so.


"They are supposed to represent my interests..."

That would be true if you lived in a district all by yourself, but as much as you might like that idea, you live among others, and a politician is supposed to represent all constituants.


"I wouldn't mind if they had a differing viewpoint but stayed in touch with reality..."

Reality, tricky concept. My experience tells me that one man's reality is another man's seven-layer bullshit.



Barthélemy Barbancourt
Testing would help
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , July 06, 2011

Term limits would be better.

I don't see how anyone can think that a $1.5 trillion deficit calls for more spending? This isn't seven layer bullshit, it is simple math.

Also, no matter how you spin it, the $34 billion MN budget is bigger than the last $31 billion budget. It is not a "draconian" cut.




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