The Obama Legacy

Posted by: Barthélemy Barbancourt

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Barry O is a complex dude so figuring out what will define his legacy is tough. It could be $4 a gallon gas, 10% unemployment, multi-trillion dollar deficits or a double dip recession.  All of things will define Barry O's disastrous term in office.

About 1 in 7 in U.S. Receive Food Stamps

Mississippi and Oregon were among the states with the largest share of the population utilizing food stamps in February: At least one in five residents in each state were receiving benefits.

Wyoming had the lowest rate of recipients with just 6.6% of the state’s residents using food stamps.

This is actually what liberals want. They love it when more people are dependent on the government. More dependents equals more votes for liberals which means more power for liberals. Of course it helps if the voters don't have to pay for any of the programs that liberals vote for.

A new analysis by Congress’s nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation found that 51 percent of U.S. households did not pay any federal income tax in 2009.

We have effectively hit the tipping point where the majority of voters can vote for higher taxes that they will never pay. how can any sane person think that this is good for our country.

I think every American should pay at least 10% of their salary in taxes. No one should be spared the joy of supporting the government. Ayn Rand was right, we have become a society of producers and moochers and the moochers are out numbering the producers.

 

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Woody
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written by Woody , May 05, 2011

The idea that liberals want people to be dependant on the government is ridiculous Bart. Ayn Rand herself was a recipient of government aid towards the end of her life. I wonder if she saw herself as a "moocher"? People are free to grasp onto her objectivist ideology but that does not necessarily mean she is RIGHT. By the way how is that mad scramnble by the theatres going to get Atlas Shrugged onto their screens. Looks to me like they are more gungho for Rio rather than Atlas Shrugged I'm still anxious to see it and see how it compares to the book.


Woody
Staying on topic
written by Woody , May 05, 2011

I failed to address President Barack Obamas legacy. Let's see mmmm he was commander in chief when Osama bin Laden was captured. I think that's quite an accomplishment but I can see how this may have been overlooked since he did not take the time to sashay around the flight deck of an aircraft carrier in a flight suit afterword.


jk noreen
Right...
written by jokin , May 05, 2011

"Let's see mmmm he was commander in chief when Osama bin Laden was captured."

Mmm, must have missed the part where OBL was "captured". I think you met "executed". Can you seriously say his administration has had their Sh!t together on the Message-thing in the aftermath of the takedown this week? Re:
!)The comedy of errors in relating what exactly happened in the operation.
2)The brilliant idea to tell Al Qaeda about the "intelligence bounty" recovered from OBL's harddrives.
3)Refusal to directly acknowledge that aggressive CIA interrogation techniques was the basis upon which bin Laden was eventually hunted down, still trying to prosecute the interrogators.
4)Refusal to directly acknowledge that the international wiretaps that he publicly opposed were integrally helpful in taking down principals in the al Qaeda network.
5) BHO is "sashaying" around NYC as we speak.
6) Using the families of the victims of 9-11 as an unwilling political prop, with whom he has had no contact with since the first weeks of his administration- that was back in early 2009 when under pressure, he couldn't explain to them satisfactorily why the charges against al-Nashiri were dropped (mastermind of the Cole bombing) and the other detainess cases delayed or dropped or proposed to have their venues changed from Guantanamo to NYC, brilliant!
7) The Pakistanis are, as we speak, no doubt selling the salvagable parts from the downed stealth helicopter to our enemies, he needed a better contingency plan, ie taking out the entire complex with a drone.



Woody
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written by Woody , May 05, 2011

1) Fog of war. This shit happens all the time. Iron guts Kelly!
2) Gee, ya thing AQ might have an idea that this is the case anyway?
3) That hasn't been proven yet jokin. There are differing reports out there on that claim.
4) Refer to 3.
5) He's visiting with families of 9-11 victims and taking some pretty pointed questions from some of them too I might add. He's not parading around in a flight suit. BIG difference!
6) "Uwilling" political prop. The ones I saw looked pretty willing and appreciative to me.
7) I hope the Chinese enjoy the fried tail of this helicopter. The SEALS are trained to protect sensitive military equipment and it would appear they did the job well here. It was a courageous decision to take this approach to capturing (oops executing) bin Laden. This could have been Obamas Iran but he decided to take this chance in order to obtain evidence of the fate of bin Laden and minimize killing innocent civilians; and "the hut" was spared.
smilies/cool.gif I'm giving you this one jokin because you missed this talking point; how about the cleansing of bin Ladens body, wrapping in a white sheet and the saying of some form of prayer translated to Aabic.
9) On a lighter note, have you had the new drink called the bin Laden? Two shots and a splash of water.



jk noreen
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written by jokin , May 05, 2011

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written by Woody , May 05, 2011

"1) Fog of war. This shit happens all the time. Iron guts Kelly!"

72 hours later and the American public still doesn't have the straight story.




Woody
written by jokin
written by Woody , May 05, 2011

"72 hours later and the American public still doesn't have the straight story"

Not surprising with all the Conservative clap trap out there designed lessen the impact of positive news for the President. What is it exactly you need clarified? Osama bin Laden is dead. Was it two to the head-one to the chest? I don't know; what difference does it make. let me know what part of this does not make sense to you.



Jonny Texas
Can I play?
written by Jonny Texas , May 05, 2011

1. Can go either way. The public isn't exactly gonna wait forever for news this big. Armed Vs. Unarmed is kind of a big cock-up though.

2. Al Qaeda might be a lot of things, but incredibly stupid isn't one of them. I am pretty sure that once they confirmed the operation people started looking for their bugout bags.

3. The funny thing is since right wingers say there is no "extreme questioning" going on at Gitmo that means that those measures didn't produce the results. Since the lefties think that anything besides saying "pretty please with sugar on top" is torture, that means that torture works. Good stuff.

4. I need a source to comment on this one.

5&6. This is Obama's way of doing the "mission accomplished" thing. The interviews, the appearances, bla, bla, bla.

7. If you want stealth helicopters the only place you are gonna find them is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmBIk5RA0EQ
The helos were nothing more than Blackhawks running light out with NVGs and using terrain masking. The only stealth helo ever made was the RAH-66 and you ain't fitting SEALS on that thing.

Bombing the compound was an option but it was a less desirable one. It would have left the Osama dead or alive question up in the air. Once the fact was known that Osama was a crispy critter the hole in the ground would have become a martyr shrine. Somebody would have collected his mortal remains (or some other hunk of organic matter) and created another martyr shrine. A twofer! All of that juicy intel we got from the hard drives, thumb drives, and documents would have been lost. It would have meant more civilian casualties.

The fact is that the operation was a smashing success. The president took a chance and utilized all of the investments that the military has made in the SPECFOR arena and got a winning hand. Good for him and the rest of us.

8. Woody since you went a little off topic #8 I am gonna take the chance to vent on something that has been pissing me off. FUCK THE GERMANS! These worthless pussies have been sucking at the American security teat for so long that one of the most martial people in the world have forgotten how or why to use force instead of hot air. Fuck them, fuck their liberal European pacifist bullshit. It makes me embarrassed to admit that I am only one generation removed from these worthless dipshits.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,760580,00.html

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9. On a lighter note. What was the last thing to go through Osama's mind? 5.56 FMJ.



jk noreen
Quiz grading continues...
written by jokin , May 06, 2011

written by Woody , May 05, 2011
"2) Gee, ya thing AQ might have an idea that this is the case anyway?"

Wrong. Releasing it appears obvious that info was for American consumption to help BHO at the polls. The rule in intelligence is to say nothing or give out disinformation, to keep AQ guessing.
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jk noreen
Quiz parts 3 and 4
written by jokin , May 06, 2011

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written by Woody , May 05, 2011

"3) That hasn't been proven yet jokin. There are differing reports out there on that claim.
4) Refer to 3."

This is a clear example of the Intellectual-Curiosity-FAIL on your part. Your standard operating procedure is when the more likely government sources give the more plausible accounts, you go instead with the spinners at the White House who are frantically trying to catch up with the facts and then reframe the Narrative. It's pretty clear the CIA and the other alphabet intelligence orgs wanted to make sure to get out in front of the story and get the credit they deserve. Here's a comprehensive straight news report of the attack and the background that led up to the inevitable takedown from the McClatchy News Service that quoted Obama's "counterterrorism expert", John Brennan, and then an "unnamed US official" and a "senior official":

1) (Q3) "Find the courier, the thinking went, and they would ultimately find bin Laden.
Interrogators at the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay were pushed to put pressure on al-Qaida suspects in custody about possible couriers. The information came in pieces, a U.S. official said, and it took years. The information enabled the CIA and other intelligence agencies to develop "a composite'' of bin Laden's courier network."

Both Khalid Sheikh Muhammad and Abu Libbi are named as the key sources in identifying the couriers.


2) (Q4) "With help from the National Security Agency, which intercepts communications, and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, which provides detailed maps and other data, the intelligence finally coalesced in February. "Our confidence level grew much higher'' that bin Laden might be hiding in the compound, a senior official said."

Just for naming/outing the "NGIA" (WTF is that?) gives this story extra credibility.












Jonny Texas
Did I mention fuck the Germans?
written by Jonny Texas , May 06, 2011

"A Hamburg judge has filed a criminal complaint against Chancellor Angela Merkel for "endorsing a crime" after she stated she was "glad" that Osama bin Laden was killed by US forces. Meanwhile a new poll reveals that a majority of Germans do not see the terrorist's death as a reason to celebrate."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,761077,00.html

Ugh..... Maybe I can convince myself I'm Polish.



Woody
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written by Woody , May 06, 2011

Jonny - have a bowl of spaetzel a nice cold Hacker Pschorr and don't take it so hard. have a great weekend!

jokin - try to get over me and the successful termination of Osama bin Laden. Something bad may happen sometime and you'll have something to celebrate. You have a good weekend too!




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