Pie in the Sky

Posted by: JW of Minnesota

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"A building that could still be loved"

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/121809629.html

The attached article does a poor job selling us on why $138 million should be spend to upgrade Riverside Plaza. She tells us that the millions should be spend to preserve the populist, humanist ideas of the architect. 

"Humanist to the core, Rapson's approach synced nicely with the progressive ethos of Minneapolis during the 1960s and '70s"

If the above statement doesn't make you throw up a little bit, then you might be a liberal.

And another thing: 138 Million, not counting overspend? Are you friggin' kidding me? Not counting the upgrades mentioned, such as landscaping and new panels, that's a lot of no-show jobs and grease for the local politicians. As far as return on investment, the future occupants have enough vested to take care of the place? The past 38 years should help explain how the $138 million dollar joint will be treated in the future. 

 

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JW of Minnesota
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written by JW of Minnesota , May 16, 2011

The author doesn't forget to mention the nicknames I remember from college:

"Over the years, Minneapolitans denigrated the six-building complex with covertly racist nicknames -- Crack Stacks, Ghetto In the Sky."

How is that racist? And I can't stand when people use the term "Minneapolitans".




Barthélemy Barbancourt
Crack Stacks is not racists
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , May 16, 2011

It is a statement on what people see occurring there. The entire project is a disaster and should be torn down.


Woody
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written by Woody , May 16, 2011

"Observers now note that Riverside Plaza has finally achieved something akin to Rapson's utopian vision -- it's a vibrant, convenient and even hopeful place to live."

I'll bet that line also made you throw up in your mouth a little bit. To be honest, I had no idea this building was a Rapson. He's no Howard Roark is he. LOL




JW of Minnesota
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written by JW of Minnesota , May 17, 2011

Woody, it's definitely vibrant and convenient. But I still have trouble spending $138MM on restoring his utopian and humanist vision. Trump bought the Empire State Building for about half that amount.

If the Soviet-style Ghet' in Sky is his vision of utopia, then dare I say we have a difference of opinion.



Woody
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written by Woody , May 17, 2011

I'm not defending spending $138MM on this eyesore JW. I was only commenting on the architecture. I've been inside that place once or twice well over 15 years ago and the inside was much worse than the exterior.


jk noreen
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written by jokin , May 18, 2011

You'll be willing to admit, then?... that this is yet another monument to the epic failure of getting the government involved in housing, ie, US Department of HUD (loved the movie better than the agency, although both Paul Newman and the government yielded the same results in everything they touched).

Maybe we could get lucky and Rapson (who is now disaffected with his creation) could "go all Howard Roark" on his eyesore and improve the Minneapolis skyline by 1000 percent in the demolition process.



Woody
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written by Woody , May 18, 2011

I admit this building is an eyesore. I won't attribute this to the "epic failure of government involved housing" The gov't can be effective at providing adequate housing to those in need thus improving their quality of life and allowing them to focus on work and school.


Barthélemy Barbancourt
Admit that Rapson's vision failed.
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , May 19, 2011

Much like most 60's and 70's liberal policies, Rapson's vision was based on wishes not reality. The rich won't live near the poor unless they have to and the rich have options.

The poor should not be packed together but dispersed. High density govt housing is a breeding ground for crime, drugs and failure. Govt. subsidized housing takes away a person's drive to work and cooperate.

The Urbanist, brutalist, Bauhuas movements created some of the ugliest buildings possible but they did prove something, Beauty in architecture matters; ugly building attract ugly lives and the people that live them.




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