Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist
Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist
Posted by: tim-The Dyslexic Blogger
on Nov 25, 2009 
Tagged in: Obama
Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told FoxNews.com. full article can be found here The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral's mast — and have requested a trial by court-martial. Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber," told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it. HERE IS A REMINDER OF WHAT THIS MUSLIM TERRORIST WAS PLACED ON THE MOST WANTED LIST FOR. March 31, 2004: Iraqis chant anti-American slogans as the charred and mutilated bodies of U.S. contractors hang from a bridge over the Euphrates River in Fallujah, Iraq. Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault charges and have retained lawyers. What the fuck is going on with this administration. Who the hell does this president think he is, and yes it is the policy's that he has in place that are leading to this. I dare any one to try and tell me it is anything else but the orders of the chicken-in-chief to prosecute our solders for crap like this. This president is an anti-war anti-America pile of crap over and over again he goes out of his way to apologize for what his twisted view of America the evil nation has done to the rest of the world. Poor little bad mans lip got blooded gee if you think about it all he had to do was whack his face aginst the wall and make a boges claim of abuse. Does any one remember the manual we found in one of thous caves the one that teaches them to make false abuse claims. The other thing to think about. During a snatch and grab operation: for the team safety they do not have time to wrap the target up in cotton bunting to keep the piece of shit from getting bumped around to much to hurt our presidents sensibilities. Whats next are they going to take away our solders bullets, and give them pillows to hit the terrorist with? Anyone willing to bet that good ol Berry won't take the time to go vist our troops in the field this thanksgiving? Last question for you all to think about. How far is Presedint Obama willing to drag this country down in to the dark pit of history? and will we be able to counter his destroctive policys, or have we aleready gone to far down the road. 
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written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , November 25, 2009
The left wants to wrap our military up with so many rules that it will be impossible for them to win anything.
Of course, our enemies know this and will leverage this knowledge to kill more of our soldiers.
Eventually some scumbags will do something worse than 9-11 and the public will demand that our government nuke someone.
written by Ed Salden , November 25, 2009
Soldiers serving their country in a hostile foreign land are heroes.
Men beating the hell out of helpless prisoners and then lying about it are cowards.
Time will tell what we have in this case.
But Bart, tell me, what's our goal in Iran? You used the word win. How will we know when we've won there?
written by Ed Salden , November 25, 2009
"This president is an anti-war anti-America pile of crap..."
I just want to mention something.
Writers here have bemoaned the double standards employed by those of us on the left, and there are plenty.
But I would like to point out one on this here blog. I remember a day when writers here would rip apart anyone who dared to assert that Bush lied to get us into Iraq. Yet comments about Obama like the one above and worse are left uncommented upon. So that's a double standard, too.
I don't care, though, because I love that free speech thing, so carry on...
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , November 25, 2009
Iraq will have been "won" when we have a stable democracy in that country. Personally I think that our hands off approach to their constitution was stupid. We should have forced them to incorporate civilization into thier government, like we did with Japan.
Winning in Afghanistan is much harder to define as our main goal their is to stop terrorists. Afghanistan has no history of stability or civilization.
I don't get your connection to the ies abotu Bush and the opinions expressed here about Obama. The left called Bush Hitler, we call Obama a communist, scum-sucking, socialist moron. These are insults and thin skinned Barry better get used to them. The "fact" that Bush lied about WMD's is a lie. Lies need to be refuted.
I know of no out right lie about Obama that we perpetuate. Obama is a child of a alcoholic bigamist who only met his adult son once. His grandparents were communists and Obama attended a madrassa as a child in Indonesia. Obama is friends with domestic terrorists and race baiting scumbags. Obama's wife has admitted that she has never been proud of America. Obama thinks real Americans are rubes that cling to guns and religion. Obama has hidden or sealed many records from his past so it is impossible to refute what his status was in college, what his grades were or even what was written on his ORIGINAL birth certificate.
written by Sequel , November 25, 2009
Victory WAS achieved there 18 months ago.
alQaeda in Mesopotamia has been defeated.
We are now on a gradual draw down of troops to make sure the jihad doesn't make a comeback there.
Victory in Iraq looks like a stable government that has a much democracy and freedom as a Muslim country can have.
Leaving behind a government that is not hostile to the west, and resistant to the jihad.
Muslims are always capable of self detonating near soft targets. The occasional Allah-bomb does not indicate much of anything.
written by Jim W , November 25, 2009
This is a war. In the effort to subdue a known terrorist and murderer, these heroes had to slug this fucker in the mouth. Tough shit. They could have killed him outright, but instead, they opted to take him into custody. These heroes are not police on a police action. They weren't torturing this fucking pig. They were subduing him. So the notion that these men should be criminally charged is as stupid as it possibly gets.
I would also add to Bart's comments on Afghanistan by saying that due to the tribal nature of that country, victory is not really something that we should expect to achieve. There are literally 100's of tribes, so the chances of getting them all to come to the table to agree are pretty slim. Democracy in Afghanistan isn't gonna happen, the best we can hope for there is to whip the shit out of the terrorist scum that are causing mayhem. However, if our Commander in CHief doesn't allow them to actually engage these scumbags, then we have no point of being there. If our brave men and women can only respond to being shot at but not engage the enemy, then putting 30000 more there wont make a difference. We cannot win anything if we don't have a winning strategy. Shit or get off the pot.
written by tim-The Dyslexic Blogger , November 25, 2009
"Soldiers serving their country in a hostile foreign land are heroes.
Men beating the hell out of helpless prisoners and then lying about it are cowards.
Time will tell what we have in this case."
He had a bloody lip that is not beating the hell out of anyone Ed do you have any idea what it is like to train then preform a snatch and grab in a war zone. I have trained to be on the recovery team several times they are not trying to make a whole lot of noise so some times the target gets knocked out in many different ways it is not a taxi picking up granny from the corner store. Do yo not think the the MSM would not be screaming it from the mountain tops if this piece of scum had the hell beaten out of him.
This piece of pig shit lead a group that killed, mutilated, burned, dragged through the streets then hung from a bridge. What would you rather have had them do feed him chocolates put his ass on a pillow and carry him in on there shoulders to be slobbered over by the MSM as a poor miss guided freedom fighter. They had to use force to take him prisoner and yes I called Obama a piece of crap, IT IS MY OPINION I have one of them so get over it there is no double slandered in that opinion. Now so you don't start thinking ya right he knows what went on. Well when I was at Ft Capmbell I was in a special ops helicopter unit so I do know something about what I speak though things have most likly changed some since I was in but not that much.
written by Jim W , November 25, 2009
This little puke told investigators that he was punched, which is what prompted this whole thing. He had a freshly bloodied lip to prove it. Oh well Gosh, he must be telling the truth. I mean, why would a terrorist murderer lie about something like that? Jesus, how fucking gullible to you have to be? Apparently, all it takes is to be liberal and by god it's time to raise hell and string up the enlisted men. Fuck this, this is bullshit.
written by Sequel , November 25, 2009
Back when we could interrogate these guys capturing them made sense.
Now that we have give these subhuman vermin a lawyer, and read them their Miranda rights it makes much less sense to do the "grab". Especially when the spec ops guys are brought up on charges if Hassan arrives roughed up a lil bit.
It's unfortunate for the next Mohamedan when he's unavoidably shot.
written by Ed Salden , November 25, 2009
If these guys did what was necessary to securing a capture, that's fine.
They're accused of abusing him while in custody and lying about it later, a whole different thing.
written by Jim W , November 25, 2009
We've hit the lowest point possible when military investigators take the word of a known terrorist murderer over that of 3 enlisted men.
No, strike that. Next, the Obama administration will call for murder charges on soldiers in a war zone when they kill a terrorist. I mean, after all, it's important that we recognize the rights of these terrorists. They were so willing to do the same to our citizens in those planes back in 2001. When they slit the throat Mr. Berg and Mr. Pearl, I'm certain those jihadist fucks were reading each their rights and setting up legal counsel. But hey, more liberals shoudl feel free to defend these guys.
written by Ed Salden , November 25, 2009
"We've hit the lowest point possible when military investigators take the word of a known terrorist murderer over that of 3 enlisted men."
I've only read the linked story and one other, so there's a bunch I don't know about the situation. What do the three other witnesses say? What is the physical evidence? Are the statements af the three defendents consistent with each other? What penalties do the defendents face?
We don't want our guys beating prisoners and lying about it later.
written by Sequel , November 25, 2009
There should be a sort of rough justice in a war zone.
A POW who is captured because he is a war criminal accidentally falls up a flight or 2 of stairs one day should probably be overlooked.
Now I'm all for civilized, but this ass clown is a war criminal, the Americans strung up from a bridge in Faluja guy, and a little extra curricular does not bother me.
Now everything I've said so far assumes that these guys really did punch Ahmed in the lip. I'd like to punch Ahmed in his lip. A kick to the groin just before a bullet to the brain pan sounds cool too.
However-
They said they didn't punch the little weasel.
I know that the jihadist playbook instructs these guys to make false charges against their guards.
written by Ed Salden , November 25, 2009
Sequel, I agree that any punishment should be in proportion to the crime. Maybe the prisoner provoked them, made some sort of move, and maybe somebody's hand slipped a little. These things can and should be treated with understanding.
written by tim-The Dyslexic Blogger , November 25, 2009
Ed
this is how you started you part of this
"Soldiers serving their country in a hostile foreign land are heroes.
Men beating the hell out of helpless prisoners and then lying about it are cowards."
Where in the article on fox or on other sites did it say anything other then he had a blooded lip?
Why did you jump from a bloody lip to they beat the crap out of him?
Can you explain how you can read bloody lip and than think that our troops would do more then that?
written by Sequel , November 25, 2009
Now yur talkin!
I will concede that if the guy is just sitting in a cell, it's hard to justify going into his cell for a beat-down just for yucks an giggles.
Really the most like scenario is something like the douchebag was talkin wise while being moved, and someones hand slipped and somehow made contact with the prisoners face.
Again, it's the kind of thing that could happen anywhere prisoners are stored. Prisoners know better that to piss off the guards, bad stuff happens. And the guards NEVER get in trouble.
Unless you're the Spec ops hero type, then the bitter small minded Lt. jumps on this and writes up a report.
And here we are.
written by Ed Salden , November 25, 2009
Tim, you're right, I don't know how much beating has been alleged.
written by Sequel , November 25, 2009
A quote from the news:
Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named “Objective Amber,” told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.
Not at a prison, not in a cell, possibly during capture.
It sounds flimsy.
written by Sequel , November 25, 2009
Lying about it?
Is that when the accused denies the allegations?
written by Jim W , November 25, 2009
Terrorists never lie. Just ask them. They'll tell you as much. Only the dirty American infidels lie. Just ask liberals. They'll tell you as much.
written by notpcenuff4u , November 25, 2009
Unless it was someone you knew hanging on that bridge. You might then for yucks and whatever, beat the guy. BUT... a fat lip is not a beating. A fatlip keeps a big mouth from
further overexertion.
"Men beating the hell out of helpless prisoners and then lying about it are cowards."
Hmmm...
Someone is a chickenshit little fuck.
But that is no surprise.
written by Hans , November 26, 2009
I am surprised that he did not file a complain that he was fired at?
Could this be a "hate crime?"
written by jokin , November 26, 2009
As Ed and his ilk are more persuaded by the emotional argument, I invite them to review the following link-
with some of the most graphic and heart-rending examples of despicable horror that I have ever seen, giving witness to what these insane cultists are WILLING TO DO TO THEIR OWN PEOPLE
for the crime of...being female. I'm sure Ed will respond with the usual "moral equivalence", and "the corrupt Blackwater agents knew what they were getting into argument"...
have a look and maybe rethink what the West is really up against:
http://blogs.tampabay.com/photo/2009/11/terrorism-thats-personal.html
There can't be compromise or accord with a "culture" that abides by these all-too-common atrocities. Most wild animals treat their prey with more dignity.
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