Bush will be vindicated

Posted by: Barthélemy Barbancourt

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Here is something you don't see everyday, three liberals got into a fight over whether Bush lied about WMD's.

TAVIS SMILEY: I wouldn't disagree with that, but here is where--you know me, I'm going to stand on my truth the best I can, even with a formidable foe like you--intellectually that is.   The reality is though that one of those guys lied to the American people. And when I say he lied, I mean his administration lied.  When you want to talk about the security of this country, Joe, you cannot disconnect that, you can't not dismiss the fact that he got us in a war that is now the longest-running war in this country.  Because his administration--say it, Joe--lied to the American people. They did not give us the proper information. We never did find a weapon of mass destruction.


SCARBOROUGH: No, that's not what you're saying. No, you said he lied. So when George Tenet, the CIA Director, comes in to talk to him, and he says this is the evidence that he has weapons of mass destruction, and the President of the United States says to him, in there, is this all you have? Is this the best evidence you have?  Because this isn't enough. And when you have the CIA Director standing up and waving his arms: Mr. President, it's a slam dunk--they have weapons of mass destruction. Saying that not in 2010. Saying that in 2002, a year after 9-11.  Now if historians want to say that Tenet was doing that because he felt the pressure of Dick Cheney, etc., that's one thing. But historians will be hard-pressed to suggest that George W. Bush knew that he was lying to the American people when he told them that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
 

SCARBOROUGH: It was given to him by British intelligence, intelligence all over the world.  And by the way: what George W. Bush was hearing from intel in 2002?  Democrats were saying in 1999, in 2000 and 2001. I can't beleive I'm having to say this again. Google it.  The New York Times on the eve of George W. Bush's inauguration said Saddam Hussein, weapons of mass destruction, were his greatest threat. The Washington Post said the greatest foreign policy threat to George W. Bush on the eve of his inauguration was Saddam Hussein. And suddenly George W. Bush decides to go into Iraq, and suddenly, sides switch!

I have no idea what brought on this bought of honesty from some on the left. I'd love to say that maturity gained through watching Obama struggle is educating the left. More likely there are more than a few "Obama Lied" memes brewing for 2012 and the left needs to re-define "lie" again. Either way this is good for Bush and good for the country. Not every presidential mistake is a lie.

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Elmer
Like sitting in an empty theater
written by Elmer , September 12, 2011

Crickets...where is everyone?

I thought W. did a good job at the 9/11 ceremonies I saw, and also a really fine job in his interview on Nat'l Geographic. I suspect he's going to look better as Obongo continues to slide. Another round of leftist Iraq doubt will probably make W. look better, too. And I understand that Obongo and Biden are trying to take credit for the surge. How about the picture on the front page of the WSJ today? Interesting contrast almost certainly intentional by the WSJ. Can't find a link sorry.



Nobody
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written by Nobody , September 12, 2011

I'm here. It's that I agree totaly. At worst W had bad/poor intel. no lie here.


Sequel
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written by Sequel , September 12, 2011

Bill Clinton and Algore lied - Saddam Husein died!!!

John Kerry (who served in Viet Nam) Lied and Uday died!!!



TomC
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written by TomC , September 13, 2011

Poor intel? How many times do you get intel that is corroborated by the CIA, the British, the French, the Israelis, and who knows who else? Tenet said "slam dunk." Saddam had used the WMDs on his own people.

If this had been a MSM-friendly administration, a big deal would have been made of the saran/mustard remnants on several shell magazine finds.

I have always said that the result of Bush's actions in Iraq and Afghanistan would not be apparent for 20 years ... 11 more years to go. Iraq may be another Mideast democracy, in addition to Turkey. The "Arab Spring" may be fallout from Bush's actions or just a normal transitory phase to whatever comes next.

Iraq is the key. It sits strategically in the middle of Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia, three differently mindset countries. (Alright, Kuwait, too.) Iraq is a bit of a melting pot itself that could, with the right and stable internal and external leadership--and a considerable portion of luck, lead to neighborhood stability and transformation. We can only hope.

We have talked about this many times here. The western world is pulling into the 21st century an oil funded, kicking and screaming, nomadic, tribal society which is stuck in the 14th century.



Woody
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written by Woody , September 13, 2011

Obama tried Bin Laden died.

I also thought President Bush looked good in the interviews and ceremonies and I think he did well under the circumstances during 9-11. I wouldn't wish that on any sitting President. As for the deception in the build up to the war in Iraq, I hold the VP responsible for that more than President Bush.

Obango?? C'mon Elmer grow up.



Barthélemy Barbancourt
Give it up Woodman
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , September 13, 2011

Barry O is as deserving of nicknames and put downs as any President. Too many of us had to look at the "Some village in Texas is missing an idiot" bumper stickers for too long.

If Perry wins the left and the Press will come up with nicknames for him and people like you will grow quiet.

Obummer is due his fair share of abuse, as any President is. His failure just makes it all that much more appropriate.



Woody
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written by Woody , September 13, 2011

Monkey see monkey do. Enjoy your moment!


Elmer
nicknames
written by Elmer , September 13, 2011

Here is a list of names used by Progs for GWB. I found them with Google:

Dubya, Bushie, Shrub, Chimp, Smirky, Bushitler, Chickenhawk One, Hitlerburton, Chimpowitz, Rove's Puppet, Cowboy Hitlerstein, AWOL McPsycho, Bushollini, Cheney's Sock Puppet, Chimpy McDrunkard, Darth Moron, Toxic Texan, Dim Son, Drinky McCokeSpoon, Emperor Chimpatine, Fearful Leader, Herr Bush, Moron-in-Chief, and Satan's Monkey.

I confess that I have heard only a few of them. Obongo is small potatoes in comparison. Isn't freedom of speech (and thus freedom to make satire) a wonderful thing?



Woody
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written by Woody , September 13, 2011

Yes it is Elmer if you wish to lower yourself to the level of those whom you despise for their disrespect of the office of President. Freedom of speech does indeed give you that right. Enjoy your moment and your contribution to society.


Elmer
chastened
written by Elmer , September 13, 2011

yes, I am. Once again a person on the right must obey some phony rule of civility and respect cooked up by a lefty Prog for the moment. Now satire of a president is disallowed by a civilized blog contributor. To quote you, Woody, "Blow Me". That was a powerfully respectful imperative if there ever was one. Just wallowing in my moment. Wallow wallow. What horseshit.


Nobody
Woodhead
written by Nobody , September 13, 2011

Blow all of us Woodrow. Line forms to the left. Wallow in your PC horse shit.


jk noreen
Those whom you despise...
written by jokin , September 13, 2011

"Yes it is Elmer if you wish to lower yourself to the level of those whom you despise for their disrespect of the office of President."

"those whom you despise"...In other words, Woodrow's most quotable arts and letters heroes of the Left.

"Enjoy your moment and your contribution to society." Yes, and Woodrow's contribution to society???, slinking away while in the midst of losing every argument where facts are involved, and in his spare time, casting about at every loony-toon left blogsite to re-broadcast their every asshattedly-fervent-douchebaggery-gotcha moment of anyone in the center or right of the political spectrum. That, and bullying Tim, as cowardly punks like to do.




Woody
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written by Woody , September 13, 2011

If that's what you want nobody I can't fulfill that for you. Sorry!


Nobody
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written by Nobody , September 13, 2011

What Woody you can't do us all? I thought a soul brother to Ed Salden could do anything.


Woody
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written by Woody , September 13, 2011

I can do just about anything that I CHOOSE to. I do not choose to pleasure any of you sexually so there's my line in the sand. Where is my brother Ed anyway? Hope all is well with you!


jk noreen
How many PBO endzone dances later???
written by jokin , September 13, 2011

"Obama tried Bin Laden died."

Yes, Woody, and it has been firmly established that operations and techniques developed and approved by that VP that you despise so much, came up with the intel and then established the trail and the means by which Bin Laden was located and killed. (Not so) Curiously, Obama failed to give proper credit to all those who made it possible.




jk noreen
Liars-in-chief
written by jokin , September 13, 2011

If Obama were held to the same standards for truth-telling as Bush, well, let's just say, Pinocchio would be mighty jealous of a certain proboscis along with those jug-ears.



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