All students MUST graduate HS
In the SOTU President Obama said this:
"We also know that when students aren’t allowed to walk away from their education, more of them walk the stage to get their diploma. So tonight, I call on every State to require that all students stay in high school until they graduate or turn eighteen."
Now the simple question I asked of the TV as "The One" spoke.
How the hell ya gonna do that? How does the government force all teens to graduate? Force the end of all kids dropping out? Government required end to all truancy is now to be mandated. Required, or what? Gulag high?
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written by Nobody , January 26, 2012
More and more people are starting to get it. Public Education is a scam and has been since Horace Mann and John Dewey. Manditory education is even more so.
written by Barthélemy Barbancourt , January 26, 2012
I have been arguing with a teacher on FB ans she just doesn't get it. When the customer is forced to buy from only one party, resentment is bound to happen, especially when that one party delivers a shitty product.
Vouchers are the only way to ensure each kid has a shot and that parents can pick a school that works for their kid.
written by Woody , January 26, 2012
Forced to buy from only one party? Monopoly? Ever heard of private schools?? The teacher just doesn't get it huh and you successfully proved her 100% wrong no doubt.
written by jokin , January 26, 2012
written by Woody , January 26, 2012
"Forced to buy from only one party? Monopoly? Ever heard of private schools?? The teacher just doesn't get it huh and you successfully proved her 100% wrong no doubt."
With Woodrow's level of Woodenness, you measure Density in mass/meters cubed.
Perhaps I'm being too harsh, as once again I am becoming suspicious...Woodrow has to be sharing his account as the Algore's did, this seems like the post of 6th grader Lil' Woodrowette, hacking Woody's account, right?
written by Sequel , January 26, 2012
Well, my thoughts were on "Gulag High". The place where they would have to put students who fail to get with the mandatory education program.
When students are not, (to quote "The One") "allowed to walk away from their education" and walk away anyway as dropouts have a nasty habit of doing, what are ya gonna do about it?
It's all so stupid. The president can't mandate a stop to high school dropouts. It's either all just horseshit, or we get San Quentin High.
written by Sequel , January 26, 2012
BTW Woody.
We have our schools. I must pay for these schools. If I want my children to go a private prep school, I must pay for the school they don't go to, and the one they do go to.
That's gotta be real close to a monopoly. There is no competition. The prep school does not compete for the dollars with the public school.
written by jokin , January 26, 2012
"Why do liberals love this monopoly?"
We know the reasons why, let's flesh them out a little.
Liberals assume that they are a small intellecual elite, the only group which requires the requisite critical thinking skills; meanwhile, the rest of the unwashed masses in their voting coalition must be corralled into their government schools and then shaped into permanent group-think voting blocs, on an "equal-opportunity" basis, of course.
The plot is so insidious, it ranks with the most wicked Machivellian machinations of the most infamous evil geniuses in history. Nobody is spot-on about Dewey and Mann. Imagine creating a monopoly on a product, where not only do you get to approve and write the revised PC curriculum through allied academia (Woody's hero, Howard Zinn is an all-time Education Hall of Shamer), you get to write the rules which define your "success",
You have no accountability to your failures, instead of analyzing the faults inherent in the monopolistic system, the Libs go to their favorite judges who have then forced various social engineering schemes to combat the "institutional racism" which is at fault, exonerating the actual failures, themselves. These ultralavish schemes have all inevitably failed, doing irreperable damage to the tax base in the process.
You can't use "tracking" to help identify, encourage and develop each child's inherent individual talents because that would be "unfair" to the otheres, so mediocrity and conformity become paramount features of the system.
You force all of your employees to become members of public unions which breeds mediocre teachers, at best, or, at worst, have 4000 "teachers" in NYC, so dangerously unqualified to engage kids in a classroom, they are forbidden access to them and spend each "workday" reading the newspaper and playing Tetris in their own private room because-- They Can't Be Fired!
Charges of "Shameful Hypocrisy!" just rolls off their backs, as they send their children to schools like the Obama children's Sidwell Friends, so they can eat a Japanese gourmet lunch on Pearl Harbor Day, while the DC schools provide as many empty bromides in their classrooms as the empty calories in their "school lunches" "school breakfasts" and now "school dinners".
They then heap Deep Opprobrium on anyone in the masses who seeks to escape the School Plantation by requesting a voucher to attend Sidwell Friends, or opting out and choosing to home school or other alternatives.
Finally, the Dem politicians continually deliver higher and higher contract settlements with the unions, ensuring ever more contributions to their campaign coffers for maintaining the status quo failure.
The result? In a global economy in which educated minds are critical to compete, we have a President who has delivered 3 straight SOU addresses at 8th grade level graded by the objective Flesch-Kincaid scale, the lowest of any modern President. But then, what else would we expect from our first Affirmative Action Prez?
written by TomC , January 27, 2012
Sequel is right. The only schools that may not be dropped out of are reform schools or, as he said, gulags.
Woody's not understanding that the current government school system is a monopoly demonstrates much about his "thinking." If we are to have government/taxpayer funded education, it should not be government provided. Vouchers, tied to the student, are the answer to best way to have schools compete for the dollars.
As it is, our current government school system has denied generations of kids a better education alternative--especially in the inner cities. Vouchers, and the competitions that results, could most quickly affect change in the more densely populated areas where change is most desperately needed; areas where hope is in short supply.
In a matter of a few years there will be "Consumer Reports" type evaluation of schools; marketing of pros and cons; varied school schedules, calendars, and focus; competition for better teachers and students; neighborhood focused schools; and any other characteristics that will distinguish one school from another.
written by Jim W , January 27, 2012
THe libertarian in me didn't like the sound of the President putting out any kind of mandate to the states the way he did. Slippery slope...
written by Nobody , January 27, 2012
When Mann and Dewey first were selling the Idea of "Public" schools, it was to get rid of crime. Mann had visited a prison and found that most of the inmates were illiterate. His rally was that In a generation we'd no longer even need prisons, how's that workin' out?
The schools quickly changed that to we needed an "informed electorate". Then most recently an "educated workforce."
None of it has worked. A brick and morter school, mandated by the govmint, with attendance mandated mandated by govmint is slavery. "Re-education gulags" anyone?
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